http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/feed/? Latest topics Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:10:29 GMT 10 http://illiweb.com/fa/gothic/logo.png http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/feed/? http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/johnny-test-tinymon-t58.htm nightmare36 It was a play off of pokemon, but they changed it to tinymon, there were tinycubes, not pokeballs, and the star was called Blast Ketchup. Anime Discussion Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:23:38 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/johnny-test-tinymon-t58.htm#1277 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/johnny-test-tinymon-t58.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/whats-new-and-whats-up-t68.htm Ash

]]> Announcements Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:56:18 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/whats-new-and-whats-up-t68.htm#1522 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/whats-new-and-whats-up-t68.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/screcering-t69.htm Anonymous smile 1]]> Anime Discussion Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:10:29 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/screcering-t69.htm#1523 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/screcering-t69.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/sweet-online-arcade-t56.htm nightmare36 www.freewebarcade.com]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:45:17 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/sweet-online-arcade-t56.htm#1214 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/sweet-online-arcade-t56.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/frozen-lightning-clan-t64.htm nightmare36
Leader:Nightmare36

Co-Leader:Elmaste

Admin:Dark56

Mod1:

Mod2:

Mod3:

Members:

So PLEASE JOIN!]]> Clans/Teams Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:08:54 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/frozen-lightning-clan-t64.htm#1463 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/frozen-lightning-clan-t64.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/what-are-you-listening-to-t4.htm Phoenix Here u can let others know what u r listening to at that instant. Music Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:48:46 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/what-are-you-listening-to-t4.htm#23 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/what-are-you-listening-to-t4.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/spamming-box-f15/spam-here-also-t35.htm The Wildemonster has anyone every tried fried magikarp??? Spamming Box Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:47:47 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/spamming-box-f15/spam-here-also-t35.htm#559 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/spamming-box-f15/spam-here-also-t35.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/glitches-bugs-f5/see-a-glitch-post-it-here-t24.htm Wishlist here....

But there shouldnt be any cause tpm is a mint site!]]> Glitches/Bugs Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:00:42 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/glitches-bugs-f5/see-a-glitch-post-it-here-t24.htm#268 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/glitches-bugs-f5/see-a-glitch-post-it-here-t24.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/curious-about-something-t67.htm Ash Hey elmaste what is the link to your rpg and what happened to it? Announcements Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:47:16 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/curious-about-something-t67.htm#1506 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/curious-about-something-t67.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/girlfriends-boyfriends-t63.htm nightmare36
P.S. I had to put boyfriends on because there MIGHT be girls.]]> General Discussion Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:47:53 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/girlfriends-boyfriends-t63.htm#1435 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/girlfriends-boyfriends-t63.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/hello-t61.htm dark56 I GOT A QUESTION WHY WHEN YOU GUYS COME ON WHEN I AM ON YOU DONT CHAT WITH ME????????? Announcements Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:44:27 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/hello-t61.htm#1396 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/hello-t61.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/dragon-lancers-t45.htm emo kid talk about any thing you wont!]]> Clans/Teams Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:36:26 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/dragon-lancers-t45.htm#951 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/dragon-lancers-t45.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/the-pokemon-flamez-clan-t1.htm Elmaste More updates will be added later.]]> Clans/Teams Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:53:55 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/the-pokemon-flamez-clan-t1.htm#1 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/the-pokemon-flamez-clan-t1.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-m-back-maybe-not-t62.htm killa
ok guys see you when i can.]]> General Discussion Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:00:36 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-m-back-maybe-not-t62.htm#1398 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-m-back-maybe-not-t62.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-moon-rpg-t46.htm Elmaste I know that some of you have a profile on tpm, but if you don't, you HAVE to sign up when the new version comes out. Or else, you will get banned. Advertisements/Partner Sites Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:32:25 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-moon-rpg-t46.htm#980 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-moon-rpg-t46.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/terrors-from-ze-dark-t25.htm Saix Ze darkest group ever to step up onto the earth. Members- Reichsführer:Prime Minister- Saix Feldmarschall:Field Marshall- Oberstgruppenführer:General- Gruppenführer:Major General- Brigadeführer:Brigadier- Standartenführer:Colonel- Sturmbannführer:Major- Sturmscharführer:Regimental Sergeant Major- Hauptscharführer:Battalion Sergeant Major- Rottenführer:Corporal- Schütze:Private- To join you must give me your name, favorite pokemon, the weakest pokemon in your ... Clans/Teams Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:12:08 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/terrors-from-ze-dark-t25.htm#274 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/terrors-from-ze-dark-t25.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/guys-i-am-sorry-t60.htm Ash Guys I am sorry I dont login much but I have been having very busy days and I have a lot of homework so ill try to login when I can. General Discussion Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:16:55 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/guys-i-am-sorry-t60.htm#1382 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/guys-i-am-sorry-t60.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/question-to-elmaste-t53.htm killa hi. i need to ask u a question elmaste. are u trying to turn to make an rpg. if the answer is yes me and ask can help. we are very good at making an rpg. General Discussion Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:21:29 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/question-to-elmaste-t53.htm#1140 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/question-to-elmaste-t53.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/help-info-f3/forum-homepage-t20.htm The Wildemonster why does it say every person who moderates that section of the forum and not the postion that moderates it??? Help/Info Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:50:38 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/help-info-f3/forum-homepage-t20.htm#194 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/help-info-f3/forum-homepage-t20.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/miken-s-sprites-t12.htm Miken15 ~Pixel Overs~ ~Recolors~ ~Revamp~ ~Mixes~ ~Trophies~ Pokemon Art Work Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:07:41 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/miken-s-sprites-t12.htm#93 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/miken-s-sprites-t12.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-fusionssnoisuf-ym-t2.htm The Wildemonster Deoxeus Ho-Two Blissaligatr Gardon Steelados Lugaza Skarmacross Tortasaur Tyranizard Snorlarel Polizor Cacton Typhlotres Electicuno Flykey Quilavachu requests? Pokemon Art Work Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:34:20 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-fusionssnoisuf-ym-t2.htm#10 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-fusionssnoisuf-ym-t2.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/staff-positions-t21.htm The Wildemonster 2nd leaders- the people are the same as the first leaders (aka webmasters)
moderators #2- why is there a need for two???
advanced members- why??? whats the purpose of this position???

also, why is elmaste and ash a member of almost every staff member???]]> Suggestions Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:43:48 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/staff-positions-t21.htm#209 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/staff-positions-t21.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-banner-t8.htm The Wildemonster ]]> Banner Creation. Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:23:11 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-banner-t8.htm#65 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-banner-t8.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/a-great-pokemon-games-fourm-t59.htm justinzotia heres url http://www.pokemonvalley.eeveeshq.com/Community/index.php]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:44:06 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/a-great-pokemon-games-fourm-t59.htm#1279 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/a-great-pokemon-games-fourm-t59.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/staff-perceptions-t55.htm nightmare36 This is what I think our staff is like, which is determined by your posts and username. *note* I'm just doing this cause I'm bored, not for any particular reason. *note #2* In no way am I saying this is what you're like, so if you don't like my description of you, DON'T COMPLAIN!!! Wildemonster- Someone who is very creative, and isn't afraid to take a challenge. Miken15- Someone who says thank you and sorry a litle bit excessively, and is somewhat creative, but he likes to build off ... General Discussion Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:32:36 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/staff-perceptions-t55.htm#1210 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/staff-perceptions-t55.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/please-register-t54.htm warcraft4 Kongregate]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:29:23 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/please-register-t54.htm#1209 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/please-register-t54.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/i-loooove-this-song-t57.htm nightmare36 I loooooove this song, it's called "Less Talk, More Rokk" by Freezepop. Go to youtube and type in "Less Talk, More Rokk". Music Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:36:17 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/i-loooove-this-song-t57.htm#1245 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/i-loooove-this-song-t57.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/proud-rockers-t22.htm Wishlist
Velvet revolver
Guns N Roses
Foo fighters

Post your fav bands!

]]> Music Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:11:47 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/proud-rockers-t22.htm#241 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/proud-rockers-t22.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/jokes-for-the-rpg-t10.htm Ash A fusion a day keeps the disease away. Nah just kidding lol]]> General Discussion Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:25:26 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/jokes-for-the-rpg-t10.htm#88 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/jokes-for-the-rpg-t10.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-website-t48.htm justinzotia http://pspokemon.forumotion.net/index.htm]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:40:30 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-website-t48.htm#996 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-website-t48.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-new-pokemon-t30.htm nightmare36 See my avatar. It's "shadow rayquaza". Pokemon Art Work Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:52:43 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-new-pokemon-t30.htm#345 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/my-new-pokemon-t30.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-new-website-t11.htm Elmaste www.tplrpg.darkbb.com I also made a blog and it's www.pokemonblog.sosblog.com]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:39:59 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-new-website-t11.htm#91 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-new-website-t11.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/the-new-sasuke-t36.htm Saix So what do you all think about sasuke changing his team name from team hebi which means "snake" to team eagle/falcon. The most amazing sharingan that he obtained through the death of Itachi and is now on the pursuit of the eight tailed snake demon. Anime Discussion Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:23:55 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/the-new-sasuke-t36.htm#617 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/anime-discussion-f12/the-new-sasuke-t36.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/i-need-your-help-elmaste-t51.htm The Wildemonster my brother got banned from tped and because we share a computer, i cant go on tped either. let shadow master know about this immedietaly!!!!!!! Announcements Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:51:55 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/i-need-your-help-elmaste-t51.htm#1079 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/announcements-f2/i-need-your-help-elmaste-t51.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hi-im-new-well-yesterday-but-hii-t47.htm emo kid im josh im emo hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii any ways hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii im ^^ and............................idont cut myself tho.........................hehe.....seraolsey i dont -.- General Discussion Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:02:27 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hi-im-new-well-yesterday-but-hii-t47.htm#981 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hi-im-new-well-yesterday-but-hii-t47.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/who-has-heard-of-the-flobotz-t40.htm justinzotia

http://music.com/landing/videopage/youtube/gMEhescEBaE/flobotz/]]> Music Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:34:19 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/who-has-heard-of-the-flobotz-t40.htm#778 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/music-f4/who-has-heard-of-the-flobotz-t40.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/well-look-who-it-is-d-t50.htm Tyro Well 'ello there: Pokemon Art Work Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:04:38 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/well-look-who-it-is-d-t50.htm#1004 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/well-look-who-it-is-d-t50.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-quit-this-place-t41.htm justinzotia http://diarl.darkbb.com/index.htm so i might come back some times]]> General Discussion Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:23:24 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-quit-this-place-t41.htm#892 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/i-quit-this-place-t41.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/diarl-rpg-t49.htm Ash http://diarl.darkbb.com . That is the forums the rpg is: http://diarl.net78.net .Its a partnersite to Elmaste so stay tuned for it to be finished.

Thanx
Ash]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:30:43 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/diarl-rpg-t49.htm#1001 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/diarl-rpg-t49.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/im-awesome-t44.htm emo kid http://s334.photobucket.com/albums/m435/josh1997-2008/?action=view&current=coolsprites.png




look at all my fusions sprites but i cant make dark or shinny or shadow! just reg and fusions!!!!!]]> Pokemon Art Work Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:25:24 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/im-awesome-t44.htm#949 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/im-awesome-t44.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/new-pokemon-t16.htm blamh135 maybe we could have a mew-four. maybe someone can make a mew-four and post it here, with some ideas of other pokemons or pokemon fusions,too. Pokemon Art Work Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:17:02 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/new-pokemon-t16.htm#125 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/pokemon-art-work-f6/new-pokemon-t16.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/moka-monkey-t38.htm justinzotia
Owner: Justinzotia
Captain:Elmaste
Co captain:
Leader:
Mokey(members):Dark56]]> Clans/Teams Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:12:09 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/moka-monkey-t38.htm#754 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/clans-teams-f1/moka-monkey-t38.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hai-d-d-i-is-a-new-guy-t42.htm LS ]]> General Discussion Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:54:37 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hai-d-d-i-is-a-new-guy-t42.htm#917 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hai-d-d-i-is-a-new-guy-t42.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-extreme-darkness-rpg-t14.htm The Wildemonster http://tpedrpg.darkbb.com/index.htm

it is going to be a great rpg, but while they are working on it, members just chat in the forums]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:12:21 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-extreme-darkness-rpg-t14.htm#105 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-pokemon-extreme-darkness-rpg-t14.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/story-mode-suggestions-t17.htm Elmaste Hi guys, I need you to give me some ideas for the story mode in the rpg. Your suggestions might be in the story mode. Suggestions Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:40:34 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/story-mode-suggestions-t17.htm#160 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/suggestions-f13/story-mode-suggestions-t17.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-one-hour-banner-t27.htm Makeshift


I still swear the current one is better. Thought i'd have a go though.]]> Banner Creation. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:46:55 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-one-hour-banner-t27.htm#299 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/banner-creation-f10/my-one-hour-banner-t27.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-second-best-forum-ever-t33.htm dark56 www.pokebunch.darkbb.com]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:54:49 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-second-best-forum-ever-t33.htm#396 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/the-second-best-forum-ever-t33.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hiiiiiiiiiiiii-t37.htm justinzotia hi elmaste you told me to come General Discussion Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:52:00 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hiiiiiiiiiiiii-t37.htm#742 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/hiiiiiiiiiiiii-t37.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-sister-s-forums-t13.htm Elmaste www.fashonista.darkbb.com
The website is still under construction.]]> Advertisements/Partner Sites Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:16:32 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-sister-s-forums-t13.htm#98 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/advertisements-partner-sites-f14/my-sister-s-forums-t13.htm http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/help-needed-t19.htm Elmaste Anyone who knows how to html, please post here, also if you know a free and easy way to build a great rpg, post here. Thank You.]]> General Discussion Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:41:47 GMT http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/help-needed-t19.htm#181 http://tpmrpg.darkbb.com/general-discussion-f8/help-needed-t19.htm